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Where Hype Rubber Hits the Laggard Road
Posted by robertworstell in Marketing Research on October 30, 2009
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I’ve recently been proving all those Madison Avenue psych studies right. By studying Cialdini, Gladwell, and Godin it pretty much says that we are actually being herded along in our tribes quite nicely. Of course my secret weapon in this is to study Maslow and then see that these tribes are far from being destructive, but are actually heading toward a better future quality of life for all members.
Madison Avenue has been helping, in their odd way, to enable people to spend their way to a better material quality of living. To do this, they need to keep earning more money than they have before. And people get sold on getting their kids through college (another tribe grist-mill) and living better lives.
Our use of this, of course, is to learn not to become effect of every marketing frenzy that comes along – and to re-learn our own mental habits so that we can make our own independent decisions. But meanwhile, as we become the lighthouse on the rocky shore for other ships passing through this storm we call life – we have to use these data to help people find our routes to success. Not that they have to follow it exactly – you just want people to be able to find it and utilize it. And if they become independent thinkers as well – hey, we might wind up with a huge tribe of people who care for each other and do the right thing more instinctively. Better for all of us on this small single world we share.
OK, today I wanted to tell you more about this tribe stuff and some fascinating explanations of what we go through.
Gartner’s Hype Cycle, Bridging the Gap, and Fads Vs. Evolution
First off, there’s Gartner’s hype cycle – which of course is full of hype. But it tells us that not everything is a fad. Somethings make their way into society and do quite nicely after they are widely adopted. Beany Babies aren’t one. Fire and the Wheel apparently are.
Someone else approached the same concept of technology adoption and talks about Bridging the Gap for early adopters, using the Bell Curve to show where early adopters, main-streamers, and laggards show up. Unfortunately, this model only says that demand dies out for every new adoption.
A really bright lad made a great point over at Trashmarketing when he superimposed the two graphs. Not all of his arguments follow, but it’s a great start.
He opines that hype is much greater during the early adopters phase and that the chatter drops off as the mainstreaming begins.
Gartner is talking about technology and adoption curves. Use of the bell curve and this gap theory is fine for fads – but says that people won’t continue using an item.
I think that we are somewhere in the middle of these two curves. (And you’ll see that the Long Tail curve also is represented there – if you look closely around “Late Majority and Laggards’)
But you’ll see what I mean when you look at Detroit’s growth and decline. Compare the Edsel and the Mustang and you can see where Ford missed the boat and made it. Social media is going through this same scene, as some platforms are bought up and drop off. Practically, Nasdaq and our current real-estate economy bubble burst (thanks to Bill Clinton, Barney Franks, ACORN and Chris Dodd for our US version = you can’t legislate morality or award unearned success…) show this same hype curve to some degree. At least for now.
And technology stocks as well as real-estate will always be with us – much as Jesus talked about the poor. So there is some combination of these to start making sense out of things. Sure, the hoop skirt never caught on, but the mini-skirt is still around – just not as hyped as before (but just as enticing to males).
How do we use this? Realize that your marketing efforts have to be way out ahead of everyone else. What you are looking for are early adopter evangelists and “sneezers” (per Gladwell’s Tipping Point) in order to help your product get critical mass. And be prepared for that Dip (Godin wrote a book about it – which I haven’t read).
But you are wanting to keep true to your main, core idea and purpose – both of yourself and of your business. You are there, actually, to help move society and this culture forward – to help it evolve. Don’t worry if your company and product get snapped up and incorporated into some behemoth current juggernaut. Turn it over and start your next one – you’ve now got your own financing as that start up just went mainstream. Time for your next start up
The main point is to keep on keeping on. Don’t listen to the Joneses – but figure out what they really need next and offer them a better solution than the one they have. Like the fries at MacDonald’s which formed the basis for a world-wide trend in fast-food. Or that entrepreneur who found out that selling everything for a little less made a lot more profit – Sam Walton created a very recession-proof business which has improved the lives of millions through his ideas like spoke-and-wheel distribution.
So: the sky is no limit, actually. Just get out there and create your tail off. Learn from the best and do better than them. With what we can now know in this Internet Age, anyone can retire from any online business you create several times over after creating their booms, not bubbles.
Some additional posts of interest:
New ideas about a dip in the middle of your product lifecycle
Posted by robertworstell in Marketing Research on October 30, 2009
Seth’s now created two separate bell curves with a dip in the middle. Convenient for him, he has a book called “The Dip” that’s been out for awhile. While this tends to explain his world-view, it may not be correct for all circumstances/situations.
I’ve earlier covered about the Product Life Cycle (which is explained various places), adding that such a marketing cycle (bottom is against time, not attitudes) can be restarted.
With Godin’s double curve, he assumes a time function at the bottom as well. So he then has your product moving through the first, into the dip, and then into the second.
In both Bell Curves, your mainstream is at the top. Mainstream passionate, and mainstream pop. For both cases, your supply/demand then peaks (with least profit) at that point – for that set of public.
For many product life cycles, the early adopters are those “dweebs” on the “cutting edge”. Gladwell talks about this in “Tipping Point”. Artsy Greenwich Villagers who liked Hush Puppies started a new product life cycle trend (which lasted years), but then got out of that trend when it went mainstream.
Jeans, on the other hand, have been eternally popular – having ups and downs, but mostly making Levi-Strauss tons of dough meanwhile. I love the mainstream part of this, as now I can get really cheap jeans (which last no longer than the expensive ones) and be comfortable in the humid Missouri summers wearing nothing but cotton. (As well as being able to keep my dress slacks in the closet because I work outside with cattle and fences and greasy farm equipment during the days.)
Jeans were a necessary point early on of those passionate about gold-mining in California. Later, other trades found that durable work pants fit their operation as well – that niche was expanded. When they became a fashion statement during the hippy ’70’s, they became mainstream – and all sorts of people started branding their own. And extensions to this, such as Dockers and what not, gave the same durable easy wear some status as they could pass for corporate wear as well.
The original niche expanded, went mainstream, and then subdivided into smaller niches again. (One particular niche is the ultra-durable versions. Overpriced Carhart’s with their trademark brown is one example.)
While you could have a dip in the middle, you could also simply have the early adopters being the passionate and the pop-cycle taking up the slack (and probably causing the slack) in the passionate demand.
You could even have several dips, as different niches find their use for that item. Jeans’ sales above has had several dips in sales. In every case, it was where a certain niche-client-type was using their product heavily and then another niche found them. (Of course, a rather slack marketing approach can cause dips, as well as poor transition into mass-production.)
Dips are also seasonal, sandals don’t sell well in winter – but also, high gas prices could keep more off the beach – or more going to the beach. A dip for one area would be a peak for another.
Charles Haanel’s “Master Key System”, Wallace Wattle’s “Science of Getting Rich”, and Napoleon Hill’s “Think and Grow Rich“ – these continue to sell well, helped by Rhonda Byrne’s “The Secret” DVD, and a host of lecturers who discovered people still bought these books and wanted more information about them. But look through eBay and you’ll see that these books are being bought regularly for decent prices as more and more re-discover them and then want more data. Sure, they were in their hay-day during the 20′2 and 30’s – but have gone on to sell way more copies than they ever did to begin with. But don’t think they had that much of an extreme dip in between – the 50’s had a lot of self-help going on (Nightingale-Conant developed during that time and the early 60’s). This particular dip would be due to generational differences.
The passionate are not always the first bell curve in the sequence. Specialized niches can “discover” a product and start using the hell out of it way after it’s fallen off the “pop” radar. Velcro has tons of uses, but has never replaced buttons or any other fastener – except in certain niche products.
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Now, that Bell Curve isn’t really just 2D-flat. It’s actually more of a bump, with niches and passions on every side. And that bump wouldn’t necessarily be smooth – as you might have mini-dips as your product transitions from one niche to another, going out of style over here while ramping up as popular over there – and there.
Against time, you might find that a certain passion-niche remains steady for demand of an item (like farmers and their jeans – they’ve become consumers of the cheap and durable) – so you have a tunnel-effect throughout the overall life-cycle. Demands for gold-miners peaked years ago, and there certainly aren’t as many farmers as their used to be, but people have gardens and like to go outdoors and so need durable pants-type clothing.
A 3D graph colored by niche would show all sorts of amazing interactions. But no one goes this way, so we’ll leave that be.
Your takeaways today?
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Passion and Pop are just different niches.
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One’s contraction is another’s expansion, dip or no dip.
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Don’t figure that the passionate are always first.
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But there is always early adopters for every niche, as well as late adopters.
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And, as always, product life cycles can be re-started through brilliant marketing – which is, again, creating a market for a product.
Seth’s Blog: Avoiding the Passion Pop Gulf:
“The reason you need to care is that gap in the middle. Every day, millions of businesses get stuck in that gap. They either move to the right in search of the masses or move to the left in search of authenticity, but they compromise. And they get stuck with neither.”




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